Out of Line
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18 conversations with founders and executives who run real businesses and say what they actually think.

Episode 19 · Nov 10, 2026

Out of Line Ep. 19 | A Teacher Said She Wouldn't Make It. Now She Builds Leaders | Kate McKinnon

A high school teacher refused to write Kate McKinnon a college recommendation because she didn't think Kate would be successful...

Episode 18 · Oct 27, 2026

Out of Line Ep. 18 | Why This HR Leader Walked Away From Her VP Title | Jamee Niles

She did everything right. Twenty five years in HR, eleven of them at one company, where she helped it grow from 170 people to...

Episode 17 · Oct 13, 2026

Out of Line Ep. 17 | Why 98% of Companies Get Veteran Hiring Wrong | Chip Mardis

Your company is probably getting veteran hiring wrong, and your HR team has no idea. Less than 2% of Americans have any...

Episode 16 · Sep 8, 2026

Out of Line EP 16 | Inside Staffing's Big Shakeup: MSPs, AI, and What Comes Next | Bryan Howlin

Your staffing firm's playbook is expiring and nobody wants to say it out loud. The big public staffing companies are losing...

Episode 15 · Aug 25, 2026

Episode 15, BE KIND, NOT NICE., David Beety, Founder & CEO, 212° Titans

David Beety named his company after one degree. At 210 water is hot. At 211 it is still just hot. At 212 you get a revolution. In...

Episode 13 · Jul 28, 2026

How to Predict if Someone Will Be a Great Employee | DR. AL PHILIP-NERI

From managing maximum-security correctional facilities and stepping into the ring as a competitive fighter to scaling a real...

Jul 14, 2026

Three Years of Unfiltered Recruiting Secrets Packed Into One Honest Conversation | Shanice Ellis

From leaving home at 16 to navigating a high-stakes industry, some founders don't just survive the chaos; they thrive in it. When...

Jun 30, 2026

2 Decades of Staffing & Recruiting Secrets Packed into 1 Conversation | Staci Epstein

Stepping away from a corporate career that feels like your entire identity isn't easy, but building a legacy from scratch demands...

Jun 16, 2026

The Hidden Reason Great Candidates Never Get Job Offers and Why Veterans Struggle To Get Hired with Sheridan Hall

After twenty-five years inside the most coveted recruiting seats in the world, including powerhouse brands like Google, Apple...

Episode 9 · May 12, 2026

Steven Meisels: From WhatsApp Groups to 50-State Staffing | Out of Line Ep. 9

He didn't come from the staffing industry. He saw friends coming out of college with no job offers and no one helping them — so...

Episode 8 · Apr 28, 2026

Out of Line Ep. 8 | From Microbiology to a Multi-Company Staffing Empire | Ronnie Hollis

He walked into staffing with a microbiology degree, a pregnant wife, and zero industry connections — and built an Inc 5000...

Episode 7 · Apr 21, 2026

Out of Line Ep. 7 | From Music Teacher to Staffing CEO | Alex Martin

Alex Martin went from teaching 4th grade music in Harlem to running her own boutique recruiting firm in under a decade. In this...

Episode 6 · Apr 14, 2026

Kimberly Kelly - Leaving a 6-Figure Career Managing 9-Figure Portfolios to Bet on Herself | Out of Line EP 6

What does it actually take to walk away from a comfortable, stable income and managing 9-figure portfolios ... and start over? In...

Episode 5 · Apr 7, 2026

Ryan Clark on Building PeopleShare to $200M and What Comes After | Out of Line Ep. 5

What does it actually take to build a staffing company from two people and zero dollars to 40 branches, 8 states, and damn near...

Episode 4 · Mar 31, 2026

Out of Line Ep. 4 | In Good Faith: Blowing the Whistle and Rebuilding From Nothing | Kelli Christina

Kelli Christina spent 25 years building a career in medical staffing then watched it all collapse after she chose to speak up. In...

Episode 3 · Mar 24, 2026

Out of Line Ep. 3 | The $100 Million Blueprint: Cary Daniel

Cary Daniel has been in the staffing industry for 30 years, built a company to over $100M in revenue, led three separate...

Episode 2 · Mar 17, 2026

Out of Line Ep. 2 | The Unfiltered Serial Entrepreneur: Thomas Sephakis

Tiffany Scott sits down with serial entrepreneur, author, and multi-industry leader Thomas Sephakis. Moving past the standard...

Episode 1 · Mar 3, 2026

Out of Line Ep. 1 | The Executive Blueprint: Gene Rice

In this episode of Out of Line, Tiffany Scott sits down with Gene Rice, Co Founder and Chairman of Rice Cohen International, one...